# A big controversy in math (0.999... = 1)

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**Created:** [April 23, 2026, 2:32am UTC](https://cl.desmos.com/t/a-big-controversy-in-math-0-999-1/8669 "2026-04-23T02:32:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![Guzman\_Tierno](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/cl.desmos.com/guzman_tierno/32/6149_2.png) [@Guzman\_Tierno](https://cl.desmos.com/u/Guzman_Tierno)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2026, 1:11pm UTC](https://cl.desmos.com/t/a-big-controversy-in-math-0-999-1/8669/81 "2026-05-23T13:11:43Z")

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thx, it was fun and the channel was starting to grow.  
It was fun to create the animations in Python to visualize math concepts but it required lots and lots of work … creating the script, creating the animations, making the voice overs, editing the video … it really takes a lot of work (and YouTube pays you almost nothing). Now I keep teaching math but I also produce math videos for an italian book editor, I have less freedom but at least I get paid.

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**Author:** ![NTMDev](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/cl.desmos.com/ntmdev/32/7141_2.png) [@NTMDev](https://cl.desmos.com/u/NTMDev)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2026, 1:21pm UTC](https://cl.desmos.com/t/a-big-controversy-in-math-0-999-1/8669/82 "2026-05-23T13:21:03Z")

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I am subscribed btw 🙂

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**Author:** ![bhssingul](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/cl.desmos.com/bhssingul/32/6761_2.png) [@bhssingul](https://cl.desmos.com/u/bhssingul)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2026, 1:50pm UTC](https://cl.desmos.com/t/a-big-controversy-in-math-0-999-1/8669/83 "2026-05-23T13:50:15Z")

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ok i just saw this,but there is a nuber other than zero that is equal to zero , its like a backwards 3 and i think that 0.99999+(backwards 3)=1,so its not 1,but it is infinitely close,like how you never truly place something on a nuberling because you are always a atom or two off,so mathmatically:no,but if you are not pedantic,yes 0.9999 = 0

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**Author:** ![NTMDev](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/cl.desmos.com/ntmdev/32/7141_2.png) [@NTMDev](https://cl.desmos.com/u/NTMDev)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2026, 2:07pm UTC](https://cl.desmos.com/t/a-big-controversy-in-math-0-999-1/8669/84 "2026-05-23T14:07:19Z")

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i assume you meant 0.9999… = 1?  
Also its called epsilon btw

> [@bhssingul](#):
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> no,but if you are not pedantic,yes 0.9999 = 0

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**Post date:** [May 23, 2026, 3:02pm UTC](https://cl.desmos.com/t/a-big-controversy-in-math-0-999-1/8669/85 "2026-05-23T15:02:26Z")

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yeah, for all non pedantically exact calculations,.9999…=1(but in pedanticness, it is not)

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**Author:** ![Guzman\_Tierno](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/cl.desmos.com/guzman_tierno/32/6149_2.png) [@Guzman\_Tierno](https://cl.desmos.com/u/Guzman_Tierno)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2026, 3:07pm UTC](https://cl.desmos.com/t/a-big-controversy-in-math-0-999-1/8669/86 "2026-05-23T15:07:55Z")

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it is actually the inverse … if you wanna be pedantic they are exactly the same.

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**Post date:** [May 23, 2026, 4:47pm UTC](https://cl.desmos.com/t/a-big-controversy-in-math-0-999-1/8669/87 "2026-05-23T16:47:33Z")

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pretty sure a lot of people on cl are subbed, or maybe just us

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**Author:** ![Guzman\_Tierno](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/cl.desmos.com/guzman_tierno/32/6149_2.png) [@Guzman\_Tierno](https://cl.desmos.com/u/Guzman_Tierno)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2026, 12:49pm UTC](https://cl.desmos.com/t/a-big-controversy-in-math-0-999-1/8669/88 "2026-05-24T12:49:21Z")

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btw, in my channel I also have a video where a do a 3.14 km wheelie  
while explaining the formulas to calculate π:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/-qtV_g7439g/maxresdefault.jpg "Un video un po' MATTO per il giorno di PI-GRECO | 3.14 Km su Una RUOTA") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qtV_g7439g)

Something a bit crazy I made 2 years ago.  
My record is actually longer: a 15.5 km wheelie.

🙂

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**Post date:** [May 24, 2026, 12:57pm UTC](https://cl.desmos.com/t/a-big-controversy-in-math-0-999-1/8669/89 "2026-05-24T12:57:54Z")

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You are a crazy man.

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**Post date:** [May 24, 2026, 1:06pm UTC](https://cl.desmos.com/t/a-big-controversy-in-math-0-999-1/8669/90 "2026-05-24T13:06:59Z")

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that is just impressive at that point

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**Post date:** [May 26, 2026, 10:54pm UTC](https://cl.desmos.com/t/a-big-controversy-in-math-0-999-1/8669/91 "2026-05-26T22:54:23Z")

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do a mole wheelie for Mole Day (October 23)

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**Post date:** [May 26, 2026, 11:26pm UTC](https://cl.desmos.com/t/a-big-controversy-in-math-0-999-1/8669/92 "2026-05-26T23:26:37Z")

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it depends on the measure unit we use for lengths …  
if we measure length using the planck length, then Avogadro \* Plank Length=  
6.0221408e23 \* 1.616255e−35 = 9 \* 10^12 m = 9 picometers  
therefore the wheelie woud be the millionth part of a millimiter … quite easy.

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**Post date:** [May 26, 2026, 11:37pm UTC](https://cl.desmos.com/t/a-big-controversy-in-math-0-999-1/8669/93 "2026-05-26T23:37:23Z")

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i meant to say kilometers… oops.

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**Post date:** [May 27, 2026, 12:40am UTC](https://cl.desmos.com/t/a-big-controversy-in-math-0-999-1/8669/94 "2026-05-27T00:40:10Z")

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Do tree(tree(tree(3))) miles wheelie

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**Post date:** [May 27, 2026, 12:42pm UTC](https://cl.desmos.com/t/a-big-controversy-in-math-0-999-1/8669/95 "2026-05-27T12:42:59Z")

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baby distance. do a tree(tree(tree(3))) quettameter wheelie

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Maybe at that point he just doesn’t do a wheelie 🙂

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**Post date:** [September 26, 2026, 3:11pm UTC](https://cl.desmos.com/t/a-big-controversy-in-math-0-999-1/8669/97 "2026-09-26T15:11:08Z")

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0.999… = x Given

9.999… = 10x Multiplication Property of Equality

9 + 0.999… = 10x Additive Decomposition

9 + x = 10x Substitution

9 = 9x Subtraction Property of Equality

1 = x Division Property of Equality

0.999… = 1 Transitive Property

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**Post date:** [October 21, 2026, 7:20pm UTC](https://cl.desmos.com/t/a-big-controversy-in-math-0-999-1/8669/98 "2026-10-21T19:20:53Z")

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This is my take on the question:

x=0.999…

10x=9.999…

10x-x=9.999…-0.999…

10y-y=9y

9x=9

1x=1

x=1

Thus, 0.999… is 1.

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